Abortion and Public Plan: Reproductive Health Care for Fertile Women--Denied!

women under Obama's bus

This site has written a few times about the severe dangers for young women in having government provide their health care. The bottom line: Both Democrats and Republicans use the abortion issue to their advantage. What that means: women will LOSE reproductive care under any government run insurance program. Period. End of story.

Currently almost 90% of private insurance plans cover abortion services. For women, it is the most common surgical procedure and over a third of all women will decide to terminate a pregnancy. Now…all those folks who believe that abortion and other controversial reproductive services will remain covered under government controlled health care plans raise their hands. No hands, thought so.
You’d have to think the Moon was made of Swiss cheese to believe that. Of course women will lose reproductive service care. Abortion out. Contraceptives. Out. Congress can’t help themselves. The Blue Doggy Dems got together and put up a letter to Obama saying no way, no how on abortion. And …That was just from the Democratic Party.

Here is what Obama promised Congress on Abortion care for women:

"And one more misunderstanding I want to clear up - under our plan, no federal dollars will be used to fund abortions, and federal conscience laws will remain in place.

Hmmm…what about rescinding that HHS Conscience Rule????
Radio Silent Ladies
Still Radio Silent.
Yet Still, Radio Silent.

More on Obama on abortion as per the NYTimes:

Mr. Obama has said the health care overhaul should preserve the current policy that federal money not pay for elective abortions, and congressional Democrats say they are trying to do that.

In his conference call with religious voters last week, Mr. Obama denied that his plan would mean government financing for abortions, calling such assertions “fabrications that have been put out there in order to discourage people from meeting what I consider to be a core ethical and moral obligation.”

Hmmm, what about helping women at their most vulnerable? Na, that not CORE at all! That be under the bus, for us, yet again!

Here is a bit more:

House health care legislation would allow the secretary of Health and Human Services to decide whether a proposed government insurance program would cover abortions. But any health insurance plan that does cover abortion — whether government-run or private — would be required to segregate its government subsidies from its patients’ premium payments so that no taxpayer money would pay for the procedure. And all patients would have the choice of plans that do and do not cover it.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/28/health/policy/28catholics.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=despite%20church's%20push,%20some%20bishops&st=cse

Holy smokes batman, did someone say “government subsidies.” Yessiryee. But.. head scratch, I thought Obama said:

They argue that these private companies can't fairly compete with the government. And they'd be right if taxpayers were subsidizing this public insurance option. But they won't be. I have insisted that like any private insurance company, the public insurance option would have to be self-sufficient and rely on the premiums it collects.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/09/09/obamas_address_to_a...

So we are going to be subsidizing or not which is it? Subsidies or course-DUH!!, but NOT for those pissy women and their uteruses. Fuck that. Fuck them.

So where are the women’s groups? Why are they silent? Or worse, apologists for Mr. Obama’s dump of women into a public plan that WILL deny them coverage they currently have and leave their uteruses and ovaries firmly in Congressional hands heretofore.
Well, sadly Gloria Feldt, a stalwart of the fight for abortion rights is so caught up in Obama mania that she writes on the Daily Beast that resistance to ObamCare “isn’t about abortion at all.”

Can Ms. Feldt not fathom that Congress will pull all sort of plugs on women’s reproductive health given the chance via government intervention? Of course she CAN!
But women’s rights are just so much hooey when it comes to the Feldt Obama Assistance Plan. Gloria, you failed to prevent the hideous loss of Health protection under Roe v. Wade. I hate to say it but your time has passed. Too many failures have racked up. Tim Kaine’s appointment just shows how seriously Obama and Democrats take you or NARAL lightweight Nancy Keenan. You WILL Roll and Dems know it, or they’d NEVER have pulled a stunt like that! Women stay in the Blue party because of repro rights BUT those who lead the fight for repro rights don’t have the muscle to stop Obama from giving the DNC an anti-choicer, pro-forcer. UhAhaA! Hair pull out moment.

Soooooo…..ladies, back to why heath care reform IS about abortion:
When you are struggling to pay the rocket-high rent on a NYCity apartment, and wind up pregnant but don’t have the cool 1K to pay your private MD to treat you, so you turn to insurance and then guess what….your insurance that used to cover abortions has been replaced with a government plan.
Out of luck chicky!
Get thee to the Bronx and wait in a clinic with all those Medicaid folks, oh wait, they don’t get abortion coverage either, do they. Nope. But your Manhattan MD charges way more than that fella in the Bronx, so a trogging you a go. But opps, post abortion infection and you need to see your regular MD…but see rider number 360 passed by the Blue Doggy /Republican Congress of (pick any future year) that says government will not pony up for any care that is the result of a willful termination of pregnancy. Call mom, or Uncle Ted. Become a beggar yet again. And forget about coverage for those birth control pills. That went out the window in 2014. Shrug. So…perhaps someone should tell Ms. Feldt that this IS about abortion.
Any public plan for repro services WILL take abortion coverage out of women’s hands. And if you don’t believe me, just ask Mr. Obama, who can’t tell you enough that:

“ no federal dollars will be used to fund abortions!”

And thankfully there is one group with the guts to speak out for women:
The Center for Reproductive Rights has this to say:

New York—Today, the president of the Center for Reproductive Rights Nancy Northup called for more forthright dialogue and vocal leadership on women’s health needs in the healthcare reform debate, particularly on the issue of access to abortion. Northup’s statement comes after President Barack Obama’s nationally televised speech on healthcare last night. In the speech, President Obama asserted that “no federal dollars will be used to fund abortions” under his plan.
Northup issued this statement in response:
“It is lamentable that during a major speech on healthcare reform, the President chose to reinforce a longstanding barrier to women’s ability to obtain abortion. For years, the federal government has prohibited federal funds from being used to pay for abortion except under extremely narrow circumstances—even when a woman’s health is jeopardized by her pregnancy. The effect has been millions of women, including those living below the poverty line, military personnel and their dependents, women served by the Indian Health Service, Peace Corps volunteers, and federal employees and their dependents who rely solely on these programs for their medical care are deprived of their right to safe, legal abortion.
“Reproductive health, including decisions about whether or not to have children, cut to the core of a woman’s daily reality as well as her well-being. The fact that the President can set out to have a comprehensive discussion of healthcare needs, but end up relegating an essential medical service, only used by women, to an outlier status, is disappointing to say the least. This was a missed opportunity to re-examine the meaning of access to a full range of choices in healthcare for women.
Private insurers appreciate that protecting women’s health means providing women access to the full range of reproductive health services and a majority offer abortion coverage.
More: Most private insurers offer abortion coverage and it is critical that there be no backsliding from the current state of affairs in the expansion of healthcare for millions of American women.

Bravo to the Guts and Bravery of CRR! Women have at least one voice strong enough to lambast Obama when he tosses them under the bus, bigtime. Yes, there is an amendment floating around out there --The Capps amendment--that would “allow” private plans to continue to cover abortion services. ALLOW? WTF? This is scary. And if Congress can ALLOW they can just as easily DisALLOW!
Comeon’! …we all know amendments can be amended. Private insurance must remain standing for women to not loose hard-fought coverage! There must be no Trojan Horse to bring down private insurance.
And then there is this from Times coverage:

Another proposal to make coverage of abortion services available without directly using federal funding includes riders to allow consumers to buy supplemental abortion coverage (Steinfels, New York Times, 9/12).

Oh it gonna cost you! Women pushed backwards.. to begging the Establishment for our human rights. 90% coverage of reproductive care under private insurance…or….no reproductive coverage under government run health care.
ObamaCare: you MUST buy insurance that doesn’t even cover what you are most likely to use it for. Gugle, gurgle burp, spit!

Comments

I ask, again, why are women

I ask, again, why are women getting pregnant if they don't want to be? Except in the case of rape, women have the power and means to not get pregnant. So stop doing it! This, for me, is the real question that should be asked; not should women have a right to an abortion. There are many ways to be sexually satisfied without allowing a penis into your vagina.

Asking women to never get

Asking women to never get pregnant when they don't want to be pregnant is like asking humans never to lie. Humans are sexual beings, and that is not going to change. Prudent behavior is one thing, flawless is another. Finger pointers are never flawless. Forced pregnancy as a result of failed contraception is so not cool. Should I give up intercouse unless I want a child? Get real. I use condoms. Hey we all do. But in case of emergency I want to be able to break glass.

Hi San Diego Dyke- Haven't

Hi San Diego Dyke-

Haven't heard from you in a while! Welcome back to comment section. OK, so to this I can't resist a reply.

First off, I love the slogan educate before you procreate. It just makes great sense for women and their kids! period. If women opt otherwise, OK by me, but that doesn't mean i must pay cradle to grave for that choice! If a gal can't afford yet to have a child, I don't really want to pay for her housing, food, childcare, health insurance, college education, etc, etc. Let the gal choose, but don't ask me to pay if your choice is more than for your ability to chose.

about not getting pregnant in the first place...well, i happen to be heterosexual and like sex. I like sex to be something that is no one else's beewax at it were. I don't tell you how and you don't tell me how, just my thought pattern. And by now you have realized we are a realist site. Ideology is really not our thing. So it is realistic to expect that heterosexual women are going to get pregnant when they didn't expect to do so. I am the classic case--undergrad, condom broke. I really liked my guy, and he was very supportive, but ...not my time. I was busy makiing me become all I need to be to be full of me. So there you go. Embryos happen. I was not ready to be a mom. Now, i am pretty great at it, but then I'd have sucked. Choice matters and never let anyone say otherwise!

A ten in bravery. thanks for

A ten in bravery. thanks for speaking out for my generation!

the queen bees are buzzing up

the queen bees are buzzing up Obama's bum, leaving it to my generation (baby bees) to pay the price. how? A)-giving away my right to insurance that covers choice B)- gold-plating health care without any thought to cost. oh wait, Obama has it figured out: pluck the savings out of Medicare. i wonder why no one has thougth about doing that before. oh, wait, they have and it never works.

Good post! It really is odd

Good post! It really is odd that only so late in the process are women's groups coming to the realization that government health care for young women is a bad idea. This country has a long tradition of not allowing tax dollars to pay for anything controversial when it comes to women's health. It is like the traditional women's groups have to be hit over the head with boulders to realize the danger.

From NARAL- In the current

From NARAL-
In the current insurance marketplace, private plans can choose whether to cover abortion care – and most do. If these anti-choice members of Congress succeed, women could lose coverage for abortion care – even if their private health-insurance plan already covers it!
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NARAL is looking VERY SAD. NARAL supports the public option and Obama's attempts to shove public insurance down our throats. NARAL is ignoring that Obama himself is pledging no gvt. funds for abortion. EVER. NARAL, rather than being up in arms about Obama's plans to EXTEND the HYDE Amendment to millions of women, re-treads the 90s fight agains those evil republicans. Guess what NARAL-- the Democrats are the devil in this case.

ONly In Lala land will Congress stop attempting to control women's bodies. Women are being told that they should accept Obama's extenstion of the Hyde prohibition of repro care to millions more women, all in the name of ??? What ???
This is WHY we need NEW leadership on Choice. NARAL has the backbone of a yeast cell. Please just go AWAY, Nancy Keenan,.. you are detrimential to abortion as a human right. YOu are actually proud that "none of the bills reference abortion." Oh you fool, they will, eventually they will,
...and guess what? Yeah, women will be told to beg for abotion coverage rather than have their primary insurance plans cover them as they do now. The choice movement is hamstrung and daily we lose rights. Not a good track record. Time for new CEOs!

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